Welcome to the
Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast
The Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast is about the business & practice of nature-based pediatric therapy for outdoor-loving practitioners in the field of occupational therapy, physical therapy, speech-language pathology, social work, behavioral health, mental health counseling, or outdoor education.
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Welcome to the
Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast
The Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast is about the business & practice of nature-based pediatric therapy for outdoor-loving practitioners in the field of occupational therapy, physical therapy, speech-language pathology, social work, behavioral health, mental health counseling, or outdoor education.
Available on
Take your work with children outdoors into nature as we cover exactly what it takes to run a successful and profitable nature-based practice that changes children's lives (and yours!) forever.
On this show, you'll get answers to questions like:
What does nature-based therapy look like?
What types of activities work well in outdoor therapy sessions?
How can nature-based therapy be a profitable business
What evidence is there for nature-based pediatric therapy?
What does research say about getting children out into nature?
What kinds of different business models exist for offering nature-based services for children?
How can I ensure the success of my nature-based outdoor business?
What systems do I need to grow a nature-based practice?
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Episodes
51. Social Work in the Great Outdoors with Tammy Thielman
On episode 51 of the TGO Podcast, social worker Tammy Thielman, BSW MSW RSW EMDR-CT EFW-MHP, joins me to talk about her nature-based therapy practice, Town & Country Counselling in Salmon Arm, BC, Canada.
50: Live Business Coaching Call for Devin Hatch, OTR/L, CSRS: Growing a Team in Your Nature-Based Therapy Practice
In this episode, Devin Hatch, OTR/L, CSRS, joins me for a live business coaching call. Devin is the co-owner of 509 Therapy Hub in Spokane, Washington.
Devin and I discuss ways to make your website CLEAR for your potential customers so they know the value you can offer to them in your services, strategies for gathering more clients to form nature-based therapy groups, tips for generating ideas for a lead magnet to grow your email list, and so much more!
49: 10 Mistakes That Keep Your Nature-Based Business From Making Meaningful Income
This episode could save you thousands of dollars. Listen in to hear 10 mistakes that stop your nature-based business from making meaningful income and my stories about making them.
48: Nature-Based THERAPY vs. Nature-Based Enrichment Services: Principles, Purposes, Processes, and Precautions.
As a pediatric therapist, there are 2 different ways you can provide nature-based services to children. One is enrichment, the other is therapy. Each of these has certain purposes, principles, processes, and precautions to consider. In this episode, I break down the differences between these two types of nature-based services so that you can decide which one is right for you to offer in your practice. I also share some of the reasons for the decisions I made in my own practice, in case it can be of help to you in yours.
47: How To Start Your Nature-Based Pediatric Practice
In this episode, I share the answers to frequently asked questions about starting a nature-based pediatric practice.
You’ll learn how I started Outdoor Kids OT (OKOT), how the ConTiGO (Connection & Transformation in the Great Outdoors) Approach was developed, the start-up logistics of a nature-based pediatric practice the structure of our nature-based OT groups at OKOT, and the systems needed for nature-based therapy.
45: 2023 Year-in-Review Part 1: What It Takes to Make $370,000+ In Your Nature-Based Practice
This is the 2023 Year-in-Review episode where I take you behind-the-scenes of my nature-based pediatric practice, Outdoor Kids OT. In this episode, you’ll get a feel for what it takes to hit 370k+ in revenue in your nature-based therapy practice.
44: A Yearly Planning Guide for Your Nature-Based Business
You must have a plan to grow a successful nature-based business. (I've learned this more and more as my practice has grown!) In this episode, I'm sharing my yearly business planning guide to help you plan for your best year yet in your nature-based practice.
42: 6 Things You Must Do To Be Successful in Nature-Based Pediatric Practice
Lots of people dream about nature-based therapy practice. Far fewer actually start and grow a successful nature-based therapy practice that is profitable and sustainable over the long haul. I just finished reading Dorie Clark’s book, The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World…and I couldn’t help thinking about how everything she shared related to my experiences starting and growing my nature-based pediatric therapy practice. In episode 42 of the TGO Podcast, I’m sharing the lessons I learned from this book and highlighting 6 things you must do to be successful in nature-based pediatric practice.
41: Hiring to Grow Your Nature-Based Practice - Live Business Coaching Call with Kristin Park, MS SLP
In this Nature-Based Business Coaching Call episode of the TGO Podcast, speech therapist Kristin Park, owner of the Magic Speech Bus (and previous guest on episode 40!) joins me to get clarity on the best next steps right now for her to GROW her nature-based business in the near future.
40: The Magic Speech Bus: Mobile Nature-Based Speech Therapy with Kristin Park, MS, SLP
Kristin Park, MS, SLP is here to share all about the creation of her business, the Magic Speech Bus! In this episode, you’ll learn, how Kristin got started, her marketing strategies and her first few months in business, Kristin’s challenges and successes with targeting different speech language skills outdoors, and so much more!
39: Ask-Me-Anything about Nature-Based Practice: A Reverse Interview with Alexa Ambrosino, OTDS
Alexa Ambrosino is an occupational therapy doctorate student at Duquesne University. As part of her capstone project, she requested an interview with me to discuss nature-based practice and advocacy…and I agreed on the condition that we could have the conversation publicly on the podcast to share with all of you!
36: Writing Great Goals in Nature-Based Therapy
In this episode, I answer a listener's question about goal writing in nature-based practice. You’ll learn the standardized format my nature-based practice uses for writing specific goals, the 4 step goal-writing process we use with families to ensure we’re getting them the outcomes they want for their children as a result of our services, and how different payor sources may impact your goal writing.
34: Diving into Surf Therapy with Naomi Matanick, OTR/L
Today we are joined by Naomi Matanick OTR/L, who started a nature-based therapy practice utilizing SURFING as her therapeutic modality! This episode talks about how Naomi discovered surf therapy, determining if a child is a good fit for surf therapy sessions, how Naomi supports children's autonomy in sessions, and so much more!
32: Fail-Learns and Wins from the First Year Inside the Business Hive
In today’s episode, I’m sharing the “fail-learns” and wins from my first year inside the Business Hive. In addition to my reflections on how the program went, I offer you takeaways that you can apply to your nature-based practice.
I’m sharing about how I learned to hold people accountable, to charge what I’m worth, why I think longer programs are the way to go, and so much more. I’m so excited to celebrate the end of this first year with the program members and also kickstart the new cohort in August. It’s been a valuable experience for both me and everyone in the program and I can’t wait to see where it takes us in the future.
30: The Start-Up Phase of Nature-Based Practice: A Live Coaching Call with Jenna Miller, OT
Today’s episode is a live business coaching call for Jenna Miller, OT, owner of Well and Wild Child OT. Jenna is deep into the start-up phase of her nature-based practice in New York. If you’re thinking about nature-based practice or just getting started, this episode is for you!
29: Life & Business Updates from Laura
Today’s episode is a bit different from what you’re used to hearing from me, but I thought this was a great time to give you my life and business updates.
I have a trip and a speaking engagement to share with you, plus updates on my Business Hive and ConTiGO courses, Therapy in the Great Outdoors community (we’re almost at 400 members, come join us!), and The Therapy in the Great Outdoors Foundation.
Lastly, I want to remind you all (and in turn, remind myself) to be gentle with yourself and give yourself grace. You can’t do everything all the time, you can only do the best you can.
22: Partnering with Schools in Your Nature-Based Practice - Live Coaching Call with Erin Wilke
In today’s episode, I’m doing a live coaching call with Erin Wilke, who is a member of the TGO Business Hive. She’s sharing how she has connected with the forest schools in her area to cultivate relationships that can bring forth new clients. She has great ideas on how to fill her daytime hours, and I’m sharing some ways that she can expand on her ideas and make them a reality.
21: Nature is for Everyone: Diversifying Nature-Based Practice Through Inclusion, Equity, Accessibility, & Representation with Mya Zavaleta
In today’s episode, I’m talking with Mya Zavaleta about the importance of DEI (or IDEAR, as she refers to it) within nature-based practices, ways to increase social accessibility, being open and honest about being inclusive in your practice, and how to engage with communities of a socioeconomic status who might not be able to afford your services.
When it comes to IDEAR, one of the most important things you can do, especially as a white person, is truly listen to people in communities that are not your own. Take the time to understand their needs, their history, their desires. Taking small steps to help people feel like they belong in nature yields big rewards.
20: How to Hire Great People
When it comes to hiring, you have to make sure that potential employees are the right fit for your business. It takes time to know what you’re looking for and to find them, but it’s worth it in the long run to have systems in place that help make hiring a smooth process.
In today’s episode, I share five practices I use in my business to hire great people. Building a team that aligns with the values of your business is crucial to the success of the business. When you have that alignment, you know that your team is carrying out those values, supporting your approach to nature-based practice, and delivering consistent services to the families you serve.