Welcome to the
Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast
The Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast is about the business & practice of nature-based pediatric therapy for outdoor-loving practitioners in the field of occupational therapy, physical therapy, speech-language pathology, social work, behavioral health, mental health counseling, or outdoor education.
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Welcome to the
Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast
The Therapy in the Great Outdoors Podcast is about the business & practice of nature-based pediatric therapy for outdoor-loving practitioners in the field of occupational therapy, physical therapy, speech-language pathology, social work, behavioral health, mental health counseling, or outdoor education.
Available on
Take your work with children outdoors into nature as we cover exactly what it takes to run a successful and profitable nature-based practice that changes children's lives (and yours!) forever.
On this show, you'll get answers to questions like:
What does nature-based therapy look like?
What types of activities work well in outdoor therapy sessions?
How can nature-based therapy be a profitable business
What evidence is there for nature-based pediatric therapy?
What does research say about getting children out into nature?
What kinds of different business models exist for offering nature-based services for children?
How can I ensure the success of my nature-based outdoor business?
What systems do I need to grow a nature-based practice?
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Episodes
101: Learn From My Mistakes! (Yearly Business Review of 2024)
Here's my annual last-year-in-review episode where YOU get to peek inside my businesses' metrics from 2024 and learn from my mistakes (as usual!) You'll learn what I'm NOT doing anymore this year, why reviewing your profit-loss statement is critical, how $60,000+ in your business bank account may NOT mean you were highly profitable, and so much more!
100: Listener Q & A for Our 100th Episode Celebration!
THANK YOU for being a TGO podcast listener!
To celebrate our 100th episode of Therapy in the Great Outodors, this week I answer YOUR questions about: How to start and run a nature-based camp (3:20) Evaluation methods for both group and individual therapy (13:40) Choosing the right website hosting platform (26:30) Balancing business growth with family life (31:10) Handling extreme weather conditions in your nature-based practice (41:40) Navigating permits and waivers for public parks (46:00)
97: Help Me Help YOU! (Life & Business Updates from Laura - Dec 2024)
How are you feeling in your nature-based practice or business right now? In this episode, you'll hear about my current feelings about both of my nature-based businesses, my therapy practice (Outdoor Kids OT) and my online business (Therapy in the Great Outdoors - which produces this podcast for you!).
92: 3 Easy Ways to Raise Your Prices (Without Losing Clients)
Hello, friends! Welcome to the final episode of our series on money and pricing. Today, I’m sharing three easy strategies to help you raise your prices so you can make more with the same amount of effort and work!
91: The Psychology of Pricing
Today, we’ll dive into the psychology of pricing—a topic that fascinates me! Key Takeaways from this episode include understanding pricing psychology, payment timing, and combatting buyer’s remorse.
Check out Kolenda.io for more on marketing and pricing psychology, consider structuring your payment processes to ease the psychological burden on clients, and always aim to reassure and provide value immediately after clients pay for services.
90: The Mindset Shift You Need to Raise Your Prices
In this week's podcast, I'm sharing the mindset shift you need to confidently raise your prices by focusing on the true value you're providing to your clients and the expertise you bring to the table and communicating that value clearly and get comfortable discussing money with potential clients.
Whether you're just starting out or have been in business for a while, this episode provides valuable tips to help you embrace your worth and take those necessary steps toward raising your rates.
89: How To Price Your Nature-Based Services
In this episode, we kick off a mini-series on pricing your nature-based therapy services. Key takeaways include using average local rates to set your prices, charging new clients more, and offering valuable add-ons to explain higher family service fees.
88: 3 Ways to Make your First $1000 as a Nature-based Therapist
In this episode, we dive into how to make your first $1,000 as a nature-based pediatric therapist. I share actionable strategies and business insights to help you hit this milestone, from focusing on one key service to pricing your offerings effectively. Whether you’re offering outdoor enrichment groups, creating multi-month therapy packages, or thinking outside the box with retainer fees, there’s a method that fits your style and your market.
83: Groups or Individual Nature-Based Therapy Services?
Should you offer groups or individual services in your nature-based therapy practice? It depends! In this episode, you'll learn how to make this decision wisely. I discuss the goals, logistics, and challenges of both service models. You'll learn the importance of clear policies, the role of parents in therapy, and when to choose one model over the other.
Enrollment will open on September 23 for you to Become a Certified Nature-Based Pediatric Therapist or Therapist Assistant in the ConTiGO Approach. Join the waitlist here.
76: 4 Lessons You Can Learn From My Mistakes: Raw Reflections from Behind-the-Scenes in my Business
Today, I’m opening up about the honest, vulnerable moments in my business journey to help you navigate your nature-based business. In this episode, I share the lessons I’ve learned from both major setbacks and ongoing challenges. We’ll discuss how all businesses are messy behind the scenes, regardless of how they appear on social media. I dive into the details of a significant fail-learn experience related to a live event that resulted in a $20k loss, and reflect on an in-person retreat planned for November that hasn’t gone as expected.
69: An Email Newsletter Template for Your Nature-Based Business
In this episode, I'm sharing a template we developed in my practice for sending a monthly newsletter to families. This helps you share free and helpful information with your potential clients, and communicate the unique value of the therapy services you provide. Tune in to hear real examples of things I've sent in our newsletter and the 3-topic template that we use to come up with simple ideas to share with families each month.
66: 5 Things ALL Successful Nature-Based Business Owners Do
Over the years coaching nature-based business owners, I've noticed some key things that all successful nature-based entrepreneurs seem to do consistently. Want to know what they are? Listen to this week's episode to get my tips and insights on how to do these 5 things so that your nature-based business can grow to serve more people in your community!
65. Growing as a Leader of Your Nature-Based Team: Live Coaching Call for Shannon Rolph
In this episode, you'll learn strategies for effectively managing and leading a team in your nature-based business. Occupational therapist Shannon Rolph from Guelph, Ontario, Canada joined me for a live business coaching call. She is the owner of Shannon Rolph OT, and runs Kids in the Woods, a nature-based branch of her business. She has hired her first employees and had questions around how to lead well while growing her business.
64. Almost ALL Nature-Based Business Owners in the United States Must Comply with this New Law
If you're a nature-based business owner in the United States, you NEED this information to avoid fines and penalties from the government! This short episode could save you a lot of hassle down the road. I explain the new Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) and the requirement that all businesses submit their Beneficial Ownership Information (BOI). Don't worry - it is quick and easy. Takes less than 10 minutes and you only need to do it once (or after any ownership changes in the future).
63. Planning for Your Summer Nature-Based Programs - A Live Coaching Call for Jillian Blount
Jillian Blount is back for a live coaching call here on the TGO podcast! She needed help sorting through options when planning for her summer programming in her nature-based practice. There are LOTS of ideas here to help you when thinking through logistics in your own practice.
60. Get Over Yourself and Just Show Up
When life gets crazy, it is HARD to keep going as a business owner...even when you have an amazing nature-baed business. This episode is an honest share from the heart about my own lack of motivation lately and lessons I've been learning in the midst of the messiness of life and business.
58. Live Coaching Call for Marianna Ayers Sordille, OTD, OTR/L
Marianna Ayers Sordille, OTD, OTR/L, owner of Whole Child Pediatric OT in Clayton, CA, joined me for a live coaching call to get some help with her nature-based business. We discussed niching DOWN, communicating value to your potential clients, considerations when packaging your services, how to get paid for all your time spent working, ways to save time when offering packaged services for clients, and assessing children for therapy services.
56. Jenny Gill - Make These Simple Changes to your Nature-Based Business Website to Get More Customers from Google Search
Jenny Gill is an OT-turned-copywriter focused on website copy and brand strategy. She's worked with lots of nature-based businesses. She came on the podcast today to talk about all things websites! Your nature-based business website can be a way for potential customers to get to know, like, and trust your business and believe in your expertise. But that doesn't matter if no one can find your website online! Jenny's here to help you learn how your nature-based business website can show up on the first page of google in your area. You'll learn simple strategies that you can do TODAY to optimize your website and connect with your ideal clients locally.
53. Start-Up Decisions in a Nature-Based Speech Therapy Practice: Live Coaching Call with Kate Glennon, MS, CCC-SLP, Certified Nature Educator
Kate Glennon MS, CCC-SLP, Certified Nature Educator came on the show this week for a live coaching call. She has a GREAT problem of lots of growth in the early days of her nature-based speech therapy practice! On this live coaching call, we discussed a lot of things, including ways to get focused time to work on your business while raising a young family in a small house, how to boost your productivity by pairing something positive with the negative business stuff that we all have to do, thinking about who to hire & when, and so much more!
52. Ask-Me-Anything!
In this Ask-Me-Anything episode, you'll hear my answers to TGO Podcast listeners' questions about:
Using swings and sensory equipment in nature-based therapy sessions
Renting land from local businesses or private land owners - how to figure out what is fair to pay for rental of the land.
Doing school observations as a nature-based therapist
How we can show parents that nature-based therapy is effective and makes a difference
Parent involvement in nature-based individual therapy sessions with a child